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Jordon Flato · 26 Nov 2008, 04:53 · from 2008-November.txt.gz

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From: jordonflato at gmail.com (Jordon Flato)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:53:59 -0800
Subject: (urth) secular interpretations
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SonOfWitz:  Do not read this post, it contains spoilers

<<The enlightenment of the outsider DOES wind up being a preprogrammed
message from Typhon and his mistress Mamelta (like Marlon Brando in
Superman), though Crane's interpretaion sounds lame at first.>>

Is this a commonly accepted interpretation?  I've only read through Long Sun
twice, but I can't at all see how this is the case!  It would certainly
change a lot of how I think about that book.  The Outsider seems to me to be
the genuine article.  Can you point me to some evidence of this?

Past that, I think the idea put forth that even the bad guys end up working
for the increate is a sound one.





On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I agree with Chris in his impressions of Wright - I feel like the ambiguity
> around the miraculous in Wolfe is necessary and important.    Yet it can
> still be divine enlightenment even if it has a rational cause.
>
> Shadows of the New Sun is a fabulous Wright creation because it is actually
> Wolfe speaking and writing rather than an author with a thesis he must force
> the text to support, (as we all tend to in graduate lit courses when push
> comes to shove.)
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