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Son of Witz · 26 Nov 2008, 22:59 · from 2008-November.txt.gz

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From: sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org (Son of Witz)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:59:36 +0000
Subject: (urth) Severian / Christ / Logos / Apocatastasis
Message-ID: <W398985569161071227740376@webmail39>


>I don'y have the time or the expertise to argue it, but I think Wolfe is a
>bog-standard modernist.  _BotNS_ is his _Ulysses_, filled up with things to
>keep readers busy for the next hundred years.  And like Joyce, he has
>sometimes had to let out a few hints for the dense -- you may recall that
>_Ulysses_ didn't originally have chapter titles.
>
>Unlike Blish, I can't remember any direct allusions to Joyce in Wolfe's
>writings, though he channels everyone else ;).
>
>David Duffy.


Is playing a modern game the same as embracing the tenents of postmodernism?
One can utilize the insights of a field without really embracing it's (lack of) belief system.  Is playing with pagan myths the same as being Pagan?

Regarding Joyce, Yowza, was this knucklehead up a creek without a paddle when I tried to read Ulysses.  someday maybe.  
the closest I've got to enjoying Joyce is an excerpt of Finnegan's Wake, put to Quasi-Death Metal by Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, called The Helpless Corpse Enactment. The video they made for it, here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELyco68w5ks
is supposedly a 4 minute reenactment of Finnegan's Wake

(perhaps inspiration fodder for Wolfe-Inspired Musicians)

~witz



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