giants and magic gems and dudes wearing all black

Son of Witz · 26 Nov 2008, 23:40 · from 2008-November.txt.gz

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From: sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org (Son of Witz)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:40:55 +0000
Subject: (urth) giants and magic gems and dudes wearing all black
Message-ID: <W421921528144511227742855@webmail1>


>And, Witz, I think modernism need not equal postmodernism. Postmodernism is usually out and out relativism of one brand or another. I often think of modernism as having a general predisposition akin to existentialism: i.e., the universe may be mere chaos, but the individual can still create stable meaning. For a postmodernist, even the individual is just a product of other random forces, not a true controlling subject.




Yeah, it's not the same. I agree Wolfe and Joyce are moderns. Bringing up postmodernism, for me, was about the endlessly relative erosion of truth and meaning, and such as you describe.



>But enough philosophy...I want to talk about giants and magic gems and dudes wearing all black...

Fukin A bro!
sucking the Autarch's brains out through a razor-straw.
fucking yer grandma when she was a little hottie.
having the biggest sword on the block
Regenerative White Fountains (I know my generative white fountain is potent cuz I knocked my wife up each time we were unprotected)
Daughters Of War (Busty R.Crumb Babes on Ice Age Beasts!! SPROING!!!, I'm putting that shit on a doom metal album cover, next chance I get.)
Backwards time travelers with more masks than Mike Patton at a Mr. Bungle concert.

~witz


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>>I don'y have the time or the expertise to argue it, but I think Wolfe is a
>>bog-standard modernist.  _BotNS_ is his _Ulysses_, filled up with things to
>>keep readers busy for the next hundred years.  And like Joyce, he has
>>sometimes had to let out a few hints for the dense -- you may recall that
>>_Ulysses_ didn't originally have chapter titles.
>>
>>Unlike Blish, I can't remember any direct allusions to Joyce in Wolfe's
>>writings, though he channels everyone else ;).
>>
>>David Duffy.
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>
>Is playing a modern game the same as embracing the tenents of postmodernism?
>One can utilize the insights of a field without really embracing it's (lack of) belief system.  Is playing with pagan myths the same as being Pagan?
>
>Regarding Joyce, Yowza, was this knucklehead up a creek without a paddle when I tried to read Ulysses.  someday maybe.  
>the closest I've got to enjoying Joyce is an excerpt of Finnegan's Wake, put to Quasi-Death Metal by Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, called The Helpless Corpse Enactment. The video they made for it, here:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELyco68w5ks
>is supposedly a 4 minute reenactment of Finnegan's Wake
>
>(perhaps inspiration fodder for Wolfe-Inspired Musicians)
>
>~witz
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