Urth Digest, Vol 51, Issue 76

David Stockhoff · 28 Nov 2008, 22:42 · from 2008-November.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:42:00 -0500
Subject: (urth) Urth Digest, Vol 51, Issue 76
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I'm just now watching the "other" Dune movies---the miniseries---and they are much closer to the text. Really very well done. 

The Lynch movie did often seem to miss the point, but I thought it did capture the mysticism of the Kwisatz Haderach/Abomination's visions in a visually poetic manner. I think that's what interested Lynch, who otherwise was drawn to grotesquery and decay, not superhuman evolution.

Weren't the sound weapons in the text?



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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:06:40 +0000
From: "Son of Witz" <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>
Subject: Re: (urth) giants and magic gems and dudes wearing all black
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>> >> what a glorious mess that would have been.
>>     
> >
> >  The Lynch work was a mess, though not that glorious.  I liked the
> >achieved atmosphere of baroque decadence, but felt that the core of
> >the original work was lost completely, not just that they simplified
> >into childish literalism the messiahnic role of the lead, but that the
> >missed that the core of the thematic threads was the mental and
> >physical improvement of man, by changing the Atreides avantage to a
> >scifi-ish kind of weaponry instead of a superior system of mental and
> >physicial conditioning.
>   

that's exactly how I feel about it.
especially changing the mental/physical conditioning to a sound weapon.
lamo.



> >
>   
>> >> y'all read The Incal? killer stuff.
>>     
> >
> >  Sadly, not in complete form.
>   

while it's not up to snuff with Wolfe, it's a damn good read. some of the alchemical imagery is made manifest in frightfully obvious (and cool) ways.

~witz





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