A new mystery ...

Son of Witz · 03 Dec 2008, 06:41 · from 2008-December.txt.gz

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From: sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org (Son of Witz)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:41:41 -0800
Subject: (urth) A new mystery ...
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On Dec 2, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Son of Witz wrote:

>
> On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Jordon Flato wrote:
>
>> So, the first incarnation of the Conciliator, the figure who has a  
>> huge impact on Severian and Urth in BotNS, is in fact an Edilon  
>> Severian resurrected, who comes back to Urth as the New Sun, who  
>> will subsequently influence Severian in BotNS, who will go on to  
>> become Eidolon Severian etc etc.
>
>
> ha ha.
>
> so, he created the Conciliator myth himself, the arrogant bastard.
> did he do it because he felt it had to be done, or could he not  
> resist being Shaman

wait a minute.

are we conflating the Severian Apu Punchau & The Sleeper God of Ushas  
with the Not Necessarily Severian Conciliator.
I've thought that since he is the Conciliator Come Again that he was  
the Conciliator of the myth. but maybe it existed before Severian I

Severian I (clawless)  gained the phoenix throne, but did he become  
the New Sun? or is all of this Heirodules just trying to renurture him  
so that he has the character to pass the Trial.
I guess I'd assumed that they saw him become the New Sun, but now I'm  
wondering if they just saw the potential.

????
~witz

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