Pantocrator
Son of Witz · 04 Dec 2008, 17:59
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From: sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org (Son of Witz) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:59:46 +0000 Subject: (urth) Pantocrator Message-ID: <W131297906196701228413586@webmail49> >From: John Watkins [mailto:john.watkins04 at gmail.com] >As intertextual evidence that Wolfe had pankration on the mind, well, >I present Solider of Arete. ______________________________________ Last things first, I have no idea what the Soldier of Arete is. It's not in the Urth Cycle, which is the only set of Wolfe books I'm talking about. _______________________________________________ >I believe that the wrestling imagery comes from the word's Greek >origin--it referred to athletes competing in the pankration--the >blended boxing and wrestling that allowed combatants to use "all >powers" at their disposal. __________________________________ It does come from the greek word, but if you look up the word's meaning, it goes up a notch to the meaning I've described. Ruler of All. "All Power" :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: from wikipedia on Pankration: "Pankration (Greek: ?????????(?), Pagkratio(n), IPA: [pa?.'kra.ti.o(n)]) is a martial arts sport introduced to the Greek Olympic Games in 648 BC and founded as a blend of boxing and wrestling. The term comes from the Ancient Greek ??????????, literally meaning "all powers" and that from ??? (pan) "all" + ?????? (kratos) "strength" or "power"." ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: from wikipedia on Pantocrator: "The most common translation of Pantocrator is "Almighty" or "All-powerful." In this understanding, Pantokrator is a compound word formed from the Greek words for "all" and the noun "strength" (??????). This is often understood in terms of potential power; i.e., able to do anything, or omnipotent. Another, less literal translation is "Ruler of All" or "Sustainer of the World." In this understanding, Pantokrator is a compound word formed from the Greek for "all" and the verb meaning "To accomplish something" or "to sustain something" (??????). This translation speaks more to God's actual power; i.e., God does everything (as opposed to God can do everything)." :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: You can clearly see here how both words come from the same root words. If Wolfe wanted wrestlers, he would have written Pankration, or however that translates, Pankrators or something, I don't know. Let's not write off another Theological cue as a typo. ~witz
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