An Old mystery ...

Jordon Flato · 04 Dec 2008, 19:55 · from 2008-December.txt.gz

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From: jordonflato at gmail.com (Jordon Flato)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:55:06 -0800
Subject: (urth) An Old mystery ...
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So, is Christ's Mass Genocide at the second coming not 'Christlike?'

I suppose you can argue that there is also the salvation of souls with that
Apocolypse as opposed to Urth's.  However, I don't think you can write that
out of New Sun.  We don't know what happens to everyone's soul on Urth when
it's destroyed, but, presumably, if this a world in which God exists, then
SOMETHING happens to those souls.  They are not all extinguished forever.
Some may go to DIS or hell or whatever (unless DIS is just pluto, in which
case, I guess those billions of souls don't go there really).  Just because
Wolfe doesn't specifically mention what happens to peoples souls when Urth
is destroyed doesn't mean there isn't some sort of redemmption for them.

Just as the souls at the end of time, when Jesus comes again, go one place
or another.  Setting fire to the fields and seperating the wheat from the
chaff and all that.

I don't think Witz is saying Sev IS Christ, but certainly, I don't think
he's meant as a foil to show how un Christlike he is.  Wait, that sentence
didn't make sense.

All I'm sayin', as Witz seems to be too, there are a whole hell of a lot of
Christ 'like' elements to Sev's story.  And the wholesale Destruction of
Urth is something that seems to be coming with the Second Coming of Jesus
too.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:47 AM, John Watkins <john.watkins04 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Also not what I said.
>
> But I guess I have to put it all in one place.  Severian's Planetary
> Reset/Genocide is not a way in which he resembles Christ, except maybe
> as a parody or travesty.
>
> On 12/4/08, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org> wrote:
> >
> > >Fine, Severian hits a reset button.
> > >
> > >But that has nothing to do with Christianity.
> >
> >
> > yeah, there are certainly no Christological symbols in the Book of the
> New Sun and Christ is NOT a Solar diety.
> >
> > http://www.spraypaintstencils.com/a-zlistings/3-wise-monkeys-image.gif
> >
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