Something Newish
Andrew Dubbeld · 06 Dec 2008, 03:16
· from 2008-December.txt.gz
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: andy at foisdin.com (Andrew Dubbeld) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:16:02 +1100 Subject: (urth) Something Newish In-Reply-To: <24787.42978.qm at web37607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <W1937513687241361228419557@webmail7> <93d4039f0812041147r47b9674ek128ad05d9a15c16e at mail.gmail.com> <273409710812041155t7d29069apf12a1b7ba3a5f759 at mail.gmail.com> <93d4039f0812041159t6fefd7b7i12e53c41bcc45047 at mail.gmail.com> <273409710812041211h3f2df715ia9ce434bcb66f15a at mail.gmail.com> <93d4039f0812041221i77986fc9rb1d82af2688bccac at mail.gmail.com> <15944.67.142.130.15.1228456331.squirrel at brunians.org> <24787.42978.qm at web37607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4939EE72.4050305 at foisdin.com> Craig Brewer wrote: > But I'm not sure about "after death," either. I mean, in a generally Christian situation, once you die, isn't that the end of your moral "trial"? Everything after is just consequence. But Able still has plenty to prove/learn about himself. That seems like a pre- rather than post-death situation. > > Craig Heaven and Hell: not terribly scriptural. There's ideas present throughout the text, but never the entirely spiritual mode of existence that "modern" Christianity has envisioned. Do note that parables are never intended to impart doctrine. They play with present understandings (pointedly), rather than bringing new insight. The scriptural idea of heaven seems to be much more bodily; a kind of future earth where we've sorted ourselves out, and God has come back to live amongst us (with subsequent resurrection and potentially judgment). It resonates a little with the idea of Ushas being the stage on which this eventually plays out. Andy
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net