Something Newish

brunians at brunians.org · 06 Dec 2008, 03:25 · from 2008-December.txt.gz

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:25:35 -0500 (EST)
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> Heaven and Hell: not terribly scriptural.

The original meaning of these terms has been obscured to some extent.

Heaven is the sky.

Hell is the Antarctic sky, that is, the part of the sky that is never seen
from the northern hemisphere (the people who developed, or redeveloped,
these ideas lived in the northern hemisphere).

All of you who are having fun with the online "Hamlet's Mill" will be
running into these ideas if you haven't already.



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There's ideas present throughout
> the text, but never the entirely spiritual mode of existence that "modern"
> Christianity has envisioned.
>
> Do note that parables are never intended to impart doctrine. They play
> with present understandings (pointedly), rather than bringing new insight.
>
> The scriptural idea of heaven seems to be much more bodily; a kind of
> future earth where we've sorted ourselves out, and God has come back to
> live amongst us (with subsequent resurrection and potentially judgment).
>
> It resonates a little with the idea of Ushas being the stage on which this
> eventually plays out.
>
> Andy
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