The Will Of God

David Stockhoff · 07 Dec 2008, 20:40 · from 2008-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:40:37 -0500
Subject: (urth) The Will Of God
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Exactly. 

I meant also to ask, Do Abaia and his lords perceive the will of the Increate? Presumably they do not, any more than the Hierogrammates do. But they seem to try to resist it rather than carry it out, at least until Severian comes along. Because their motivations are unclear beyond the desire to enslave humanity, it's hard to figure out whether they guess right about the Increate or not. If they ARE on the wrong side, is it because they guessed right or guessed wrong?

As an idle aside: It occurs to me that a Protestant view of the Hieros (all of them) would be to mistrust them completely. They stand between us and the Increate, pretending or seeming to represent him or what he wants. And they are all corrupt.(The extent to which they actually claim this status can be argued.) 

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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:02:09 -0500
From: "John Watkins" <john.watkins04 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) The Will Of God
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I think it is clear that the Hierogrammates do not know the will of
God.  What is less clear to me is:

1) Are the pieties of the Hierodules, Hierarchs, and Hierogrammates
sincere?  I take is that there is truth mixed with falsehood, but I
can't tell where one ends and the other begins.

2) Do the Hierogrammates ultimately bring about the will of God?  I
want to say that they do. I do not know how, in the text, this occurs,
unless it really is through time-travelling protagonists from later
series.

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