The Will Of God

David Stockhoff · 08 Dec 2008, 15:06 · from 2008-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:06:15 -0500
Subject: (urth) The Will Of God
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So, superior but not perfect. Yes, you would think that their "higher" perspective is worth something. However, it might equally well be worth nothing.

I'm skeptical that knowledge of those particular events is worth anything either. Perhaps this is because I regard them as fictional at best.  And the Christian myth has its own share of unreliable narrators.

But the issue here is how, then, to identify and analyze a true "divine intervention"---which brings us back to our starting point. 

Only true miracles could possibly be proof, and then only to eyewitnesses themselves. And no mere reader of Severian can ever be a direct eyewitness.

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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:21:51 -0600
From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com>
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David Stockhoff wrote:

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> > Sure, but so what? How does that help explain anything in TBotNS? No one has questioned that there is evil---I have said that Wolfe clearly believes it is real. The question is to what extent "actors" think they are doing evil and doing good vs to what extent they are actually doing either, and how that fits into this will of God---which, by the way, is inaccessible to us. 
> > 
> > If it were accessible, it would be known. If it were known, it would be both acted upon and resisted. Do the Hierogrammates know the will of God?
>   

They might have superior knowledge of God's will if their superior 
preception in time and space includes divine interventions like the 
literal words and deeds of our cycle's Christ, Moses receiving the 
Commandments, any of Abraham's numerous audiences with God, and those 
yet to come in our timeline, like Judgment Day.

-- Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com < http://www.io.com/~jwilson >

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