The Will Of God

David Stockhoff · 08 Dec 2008, 19:09 · from 2008-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:09:37 -0500
Subject: (urth) The Will Of God
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Ah, very nicely reasoned, Jeff. Perhaps so.

I somehow imagine angels sitting in office buildings on Yesod, layer upon layer of middle management and banks of miracle hotline workers. ;)

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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:44:19 -0600
From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com>
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David Stockhoff wrote:

> > So, superior but not perfect. Yes, you would think that their "higher" perspective is worth something. However, it might equally well be worth nothing.
> > 
> > I'm skeptical that knowledge of those particular events is worth anything either. Perhaps this is because I regard them as fictional at best.  And the Christian myth has its own share of unreliable narrators.
> > 
> > But the issue here is how, then, to identify and analyze a true "divine intervention"---which brings us back to our starting point. 
> > 
> > Only true miracles could possibly be proof, and then only to eyewitnesses themselves. And no mere reader of Severian can ever be a direct eyewitness.
>   

THe Hierogrammates seem to have an improved from of witness in that that
absorbed fragments share with the main body and the main body with new 
fragments. They also demonstarte an ability to direct portals through 
time and space through which they can speak and observe, and depost 
people. If an archipelago were to ever identify a miracle in their 
companion galaxy in Briah, they could all be personal witnesses of it in 
short order.

-- Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com < http://www.io.com/~jwilson > 
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