Abaia and the undines
Matthew Malthouse · 10 Dec 2008, 23:49
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From: matthew at calmeilles.co.uk (Matthew Malthouse) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:49:01 +0000 Subject: (urth) Abaia and the undines In-Reply-To: <493FDCEA.1020508 at verizon.net> References: <mailman.38551.1228879380.21489.urth-urth.net at lists.urth.net> <493FDCEA.1020508 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <20081210234924.D4D3A8039 at diego.dreamhost.com> At 15:14 10/12/2008, you wrote: >Otherwise, I have not found any correspondence of these names with >one another or any single mythos in any way, except that the names >Erebus and Arioch may have Semitic roots, and that Erebus and Scylla >are Homeric. Arioch is indeed Hebrew meaning fierce lion and as a demon appeared in works as diverse (or similar?) as Paradise Lost and Morcock's Elric et al. Erebus son of Chaos was shadow. Also a part of or alternate name for all of Hades. The word has proto-indo-european roots and may be cognate the Hebrew erebh, sunset. Scylla, daughter of Nissus king of Megara. Or (more likely): one of the monster guardians the straits of Messina, either 6 headed or a single human head with 4 dogs' heads. Thematically all these three are bad ends for men - or mankind. So even if their motives are complex and their actions mot entirely explicable I think the name are enough to tell us that Wolfe means us to understand that This Is Not A Good Idea. Matthew Si non confectus, non reficiat
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