Severian among the Ascians

David Stockhoff · 12 Dec 2008, 15:32 · from 2008-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:32:28 -0500
Subject: (urth) Severian among the Ascians
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The text is here:

Again I endured my imprisonment in the jungle ziggurat by Vodalus, the year I had spent among the Ascians,
my flight from the white wolves in the Secret House; and a thousand similiar terrors, until
at last it seemed to me that a demon desired that I surrender my miserable existence to
Apu-Punchau, and that the demon was myself.

Wolfe is here:

Wolfe: "There was the time when Severian encountered assassins in the
Secret House who had come to kill Ymar, an autarch a chiliad dead. I may
write about that sometime. And the year he spent as a slave of the
Ascians. But I doubt that either will make it into print."

Since this was in 1982, it was before he wrote TUotNS, in which Severian does indeed meet a corpse of an assassin 
who comes to life as he watches, then presumably stabs Valeria. 

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:20:59 -0700
From: "Dave Tallman" <davetallman at msn.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) Severian among the Ascians
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Son of Witz wrote:

My biggest problem with Lexicon Urthus is that he throws out some wild

> > suggestions and then often doesn't cite any text that supports it. I love
> > the speculation, but lets back it up. Of course there are many great things
> > about the L.U.
>   
L.U. does give a reference on this one under "History of Urth" in the 
timeline. It's UotNS, Chapter 51. It says Sev spent a year among the 
Ascians, but not that he was a slave. The part comes from a Wolfe 
interview, referenced here: 
http://lists.urth.net/htdig.cgi/urth-urth.net/2007-July/008043.html 
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Wolfe: "There was the time when Severian encountered assassins in the
Secret House who had come to kill Ymar, an autarch a chiliad dead. I may
write about that sometime. And the year he spent as a slave of the
Ascians. But I doudt that either will make it into print."

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