Science catches up to the New Sun

David Stockhoff · 13 Dec 2008, 22:56 · from 2008-December.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:56:37 -0500
Subject: (urth) Science catches up to the New Sun
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Apheta makes it fairly clear that causation has occurred. The Hieros happened, and then the Hierogrammates happened. The Hieros' old universe is gone, and Briah has not. Naturally, the Hieros can move from Yesod to any universe, but only any universe that exists. So the model of universes separated by time is a given in her version. 

They aren't successive in the sense of occupying the same space, since that would be meaningless. But it's reasonable to guess that universes are not actually created or destroyed, just like matter.

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From: "James Wynn" <crushtv at gmail.com>
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> > the various Hieros are rather vague on the concept of
> > successive "universes." The word gets thrown around a lot, almost 
> > casually: you have stacked universes, sequential universes,
> > and so on. How does one escape a universe when it implodes?
> >Was Yesod always there, or was it created?
>   

Since Time collapses with successive universes, the idea of "sequentiality" 
between universes would be either naive or would mean something totally 
different from what we mean by it. If we assume that the Hieros are 
"causality-based", then successive universes would be a theoretical model 
rather than an observed phenomena. It would mean that the Hieros have the 
ability to move between parallel worlds...some adjacent and others 
not...like those in "There Are Doors".

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