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The argument for Intractability

Andrew Dubbeld · 25 Dec 2008, 14:03 · from 2008-December.txt.gz

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From: andy at foisdin.com (Andrew Dubbeld)
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 01:03:16 +1100
Subject: (urth) The argument for Intractability
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Jeff Wilson wrote:
> Right, however Jesus did have/has enduring union with the divine, 
> post-Ascension. Severian seems to *lose* union with the divine, taking 
> up once again mortal habits like sleeping in his bower on Ushas.
> 

At very least, he seems to have retained his ability to travel to different periods, etc.

I'm halfway through a re-read of Urth: from memory, I got the impression that he lost his communion with the divine by the end, but he writes as if he still has the ability to go anywhere / do anything.

i.e. revisiting the inn with the resurrected dead man, and fancying that he is three or four of the people who aided him in the night.

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