Gideon
John Watkins · 08 Jan 2009, 18:45
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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:45:41 -0500 Subject: (urth) Gideon In-Reply-To: <1f7617370901081039l1d87425cqea736b87e828f7ec at mail.gmail.com> References: <009401c97160$4fce77a0$cecc4a0c@rclackey> <496606E5.2060908 at gmail.com> <321585EF-8690-40D1-A46C-31610603A7B5 at io.com> <20090108172727.GA15021 at broggs.org> <1f7617370901081011r33f995d1t5e1162fd934942e1 at mail.gmail.com> <20090108182719.GA28467 at broggs.org> <1f7617370901081039l1d87425cqea736b87e828f7ec at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <93d4039f0901081045j1fa6d328na6b86c6480c1ecef at mail.gmail.com> > > I don't want to start a whole theological argument, but I think you've > reversed cause and effect here. It is not that acting morally allows > us to receive Christ's grace; rather, it is that Christ's grace allows > us to act morally. Unregenerate humanity, the "old creation," is > conceived of as corrupt and fallen, and incapable of doing any real > good. "In Christ I am a new creation," and capable of doing real > good. > As Mr. Beaver puts it in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, "There may be two schools of thought" on this question. It's possibly best to leave it at that. > -- > Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant > ----- > http://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer > http://www.danehyoakes.com > > I once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a > restaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand > Island Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. Pratchett > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >
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