Gideon

John Watkins · 13 Jan 2009, 15:04 · from 2009-January.txt.gz

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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:04:00 -0500
Subject: (urth) Gideon
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I like the Cassie = Margaret theory a lot more than I like the "two
Bills" theory.  This comic book stuff with "Robin" has basically
convinced me.

Note that the first female Robin in the comics was Carrie Kelly.

On 1/13/09, Dave Tallman <davetallman at msn.com> wrote:
> Roy C. Lackey wrote:
> > I understand the distinction you mean, and we can call Cassie's change
> mojo
> > or whatever if you like, but it still amounts to a glamour. It may not
> wash
> > off, like Gil's, but the change wrought by Gid on her was not permanent
> and
> > was never going to be permanent, even if she had not gotten herself
> stranded
> > in harsh conditions on that island. And Gid had the power to reverse it.
> > (81) What he did for her was much like what Talos had done with Jolenta,
> > only the loss of the mojo left Cassie in a much worse physical state than
> > she would have been in had she never had it. In other words, there was a
> > price to be paid for the mojo that she didn't know about.
> >
> >
> The burnout problem gives us reason to think that the mojo trick will only
> work once. That was a creepy thing to do to a woman Gid professed to love,
> but he was never one to let love trump financial self-interest. If Cassie
> can't power up again, the Rian solution is out. That leaves the possibility
> of going "down" to werewolf level.
>
> If my theory is correct, there should be literary clues as well as
> "real-life" clues. Here are a few I have found:
>
>  1. Cassie/Margaret has a prophecy of doom that is not believed,
>     making her a Cassandra, as Palma said (p. 64).
>  2. Margaret is also like a banshee, predicting death. She is a Gray
>     Neighbor (p. 64).
>  3. The Klauser quote about temporal doubles is "The robin another
>     robin fights in a clean window seems terribly real to him, too"
>     (p. 298).
>  4. Cassie is identified with Batman's Robin. She is a sidekick to a
>     dark detective with a high-tech car. There are countless jokes
>     about Robin wanting to drive the Batmobile.
>  5. The "manbat" Visitors call Cassie their cub (p. 235).
>  6. One food Cassie will eat on Woldercan looks like worms (p. 299).
>  7. There is a character in Memorare named Robin Redd, who seems
>     almost a prototype for Cassie. She is twice-divorced, and one of
>     her exes is a criminal type. She also has an alliterative name and
>     works in show business.
>  8. The match from "Mariah Brownlea" to "Margaret Briggs" is more than
>     just initials. It has the same first three letters in the first
>     name and the same first two letters in the second.
>
> It's possible that Margaret avoided a direct warning to Reis. I'm looking
> for other things she might have done to sabotage the plan to take Cassie to
> the Takanga islands. She may have taken the picture that revealed Gib as
> Gideon to the ATF. She had a camera and was present at dress rehearsals. She
> also warned Cassie that she was getting in too deep (p. 141).
>
> The cycle may not be stabilized. On the next iteration, Cassie/Margaret can
> avoid repeating actions that didn't work the last time (like the picture,
> leading to the death of Scott). She may even succeed in the long run. I hope
> she does.
>
>
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