Calde of the Long Sun and Learning to Read Wolfe

Stuart Hamm · 14 Jan 2009, 18:24 · from 2009-January.txt.gz

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From: hammstu at sbcglobal.net (Stuart Hamm)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:24:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) Calde of the Long Sun and Learning to Read Wolfe
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?A buddy of mine in Madrid has a good pun the Spanish use with/for ayuntamiento...
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--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Paul B <pb.stuff at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Paul B <pb.stuff at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) Calde of the Long Sun and Learning to Read Wolfe
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 9:24 AM

A "calde" is a mayor if etymology and the things we see Caldes do have anything to say about it.? The word, like "ayuntamiento" and "juzgado" has Spanish roots in "alcalde" which means "mayor", which itself comes from the Arabic "al-quadi", "the judge".? There is no theocratic component to it, which is fitting since neither Silk's predecessor nor successor (a teeny spoiler from RttW) are religious authorities.
Keep in mind that Viron is one city among many, so terms like Pope and Emperor are right out.

Paul

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org> wrote:

Just finished Calde of the Long Sun.
what a read!
I haven't searched the list yet, in order to avoid spoilers,but I can't find anything to define "Calde".
I'm not clear if Calde is a higher office than Prolocutor.
Obviously it's the theocratic civil ruler, but I'm not clear on the hierarchy.
Is Calde like a Bishop/Mayor or a Pope/Emperor? ?the book doesn't exactly make it clear. ?The fact that it's specific to Viron makes me think it's like a Bishop/Mayor role, and that the Prolocutor is the equivalent to a Pope for the whole whorl.
any help?

thanks
~witz

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