Long Sun Laughs

John Watkins · 21 Jan 2009, 15:57 · from 2009-January.txt.gz

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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:57:40 -0500
Subject: (urth) Long Sun Laughs
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:

> just reread it. it's not oblique. the monitor changed course.
> but I don't think that alone is enough to deny that Quetzal might have been
> trying to send them to the Inumu (inhumi).


Me either.  I do think it throws it into doubt, though.  Quetzal was either
a sort of false prophet luring people to their deaths or a vampire who came
to love the people he cared for--I'm still not sure which, or that Wolfe
wants it to be clear.


>
> How would he know he would die and be overruled by a servant? call it a
> lack of shrewdness on his deathbed.
>
His corpse was hideous.  People were freaking out about it.  If he knew
that, he wouldn't assume the monitor would overrule his decision--he'd
assume that EVERYONE would collectively realize that doing what he asked was
a Very Bad Idea.  The surprising part, to him, might have been Remora
talking the others into trusting Quetzal anyway.



> anyway, unless some other answer supplants that, I'll stick with it,
> because it's loaded and appropriate to the themes.
> ~witz
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2009, at 7:29 AM, John Watkins wrote:
>
> I thought Horn was explicit about the monitor changing course based on the
>> corpse.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2009, at 7:23 AM, John Watkins wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>
>> wrote:
>> My biggest question throughout the whole book was the nature of Quetzal. I
>> find it interesting that the heads of this church are a feathered serpent
>> and an eel. I can't help but relate this to my feelings (which I've
>> expressed here before, and apologize in advance to the faithful) that the
>> Catholic Church has long been usurped by vampires of sorts.  I'm sure I'm
>> not alone in that feeling, and I find it extremely provocative that a devout
>> Catholic would set things up that way. more testament to Wolfe's gutsiness.
>>  I can't help but feel that Quetzal was shepherding his flock to Green as
>> food. talk about a blood sacrifice.  I assume it was him who got Teasel
>> early on.
>>
>> I dunno.  Had Quetzal ever seen the corpse of one of his own kind?  If so,
>> he'd presumably know what would happen and pick the planet he didn't want
>> them to go to, right?
>>
>> So, you're saying the Monitor decided, after seeing his corpse, to change
>> course.  i thought that was vague, but yeah...
>> but did he know he was gonna die? I should read that again.
>>
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