Wolfean theologies

Chris P · 05 Feb 2009, 07:37 · from 2009-February.txt.gz

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From: rasputin_ at hotmail.com (Chris P)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:37:01 +0000
Subject: (urth) Wolfean theologies
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"Priest rapists", your mother, her drinking habits, and Satanists are - as far as I can tell - immaterial to Wolfe's work.

I'm sure some people probably were offended by what you said. But others probably checked their email, browsed through messages on the list and wondered "why are we talking about priest rapists?" And the answer, as near as I can tell, is "No good reason at all." Digressions happen, but when they're presented in a way that's deliberately designed to an angry (and equally pointless) response for everyone else to read through, it's just trolling.

-- 
"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set." -- Lin Yutang



> From: sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org
> To: urth at lists.urth.net
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:14:37 -0800
> Subject: Re: (urth) Wolfean theologies
> 
> sorry I've got some critical things to say about your momma.
> It ain't like she's innocent.
> *resists yo mama joke*
> No one complained when I bagged on Scientific Materialism.
> and "Foul Mouth Whore" is insulting language, which I did not use.
> I suggested that one error perhaps led to some real problems.
> Just as my mother's drinking led to her neglect of her children and  
> herself.
> I think the Catholic Church has real, big time issues. sorry if it  
> offends y'all, but how long can you talk about doctrinal differences  
> between sect's interpretations without stepping on some toes?
> 
> I'm trying to be thoughtful about my comments, knowing that there are   
> bound to be a lot of Catholics here, as Wolfe is a self-proclaimed  
> "Catholic Writer". I don't think Wolfe's writing is at all orthodox  
> though. I dug the situation with Quetzal because the idea of a vampire  
> at the top of the church is EXACTLY what I've felt about the Pope my  
> ENTIRE life. Fucking Literally. Should I not say that here because  
> some of you are down with the Pope? Surely you all have tougher skin  
> than that.  Sorry, if your faith or church can't withstand some tough  
> questions, what is it worth?
> 
> I think Satanists are selfish idiots. anyone offended?
> 
> ~Son
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:35 PM, Matthew King wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org 
> > > wrote:
> >> I'm not harshing on Catholics,
> >> I'm harshing on the Catholic Church.
> >
> > Son, if I may call you that, this is akin to declaring, "I'm not
> > saying you're a son of a bitch, just that your mother is a
> > foul-mouthed whore."
> >
> >> Like I might bag on Iran without
> >> offense to Iranians
> >
> > Most of the rest of the inhabitants of the world have not yet
> > convinced themselves that they are wholly unconcerned with the fate
> > and reputation of their communities.  I submit that you would meet
> > much the same reaction in badmouthing Iran to Persians.
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