Quasi Christ?
Roy C. Lackey · 10 Feb 2009, 08:15
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From: rclackey at stic.net (Roy C. Lackey) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:15:48 -0600 Subject: (urth) Quasi Christ? References: <mailman.1.1234217321.18697.urth-urth.net at lists.urth.net> <4990B334.8010408 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <00a701c98b57$cd2465a0$03d24a0c@rclackey> David Stockhoff wrote: >> First, I'd say that the novel simply must rule out all other sentient species. In fact, there don't seem to be any other sentient species in the TBotNS universe---only Powers like the Cumean, Inire, Tzadkiel, etc. (The Inhumi are different, and look at how closely Wolfe examines their moral potential, and how he ties it to humans'.) > > We can't speculate on their histories because we don't meet more than one of them---their societies and histories are closed to us. But for all we know, every one of their "species" did indeed have some sort of "unique-intervention" moment. The Increate could have an infinity of sons he sent off to die horribly, *but we don't need to know about it.* TBotNS is not really an "interstellar" or galactic SF novel. > > Second, I agree that it would be a basic unfairness to all the other interstellar races to have the only OTC in the universes land on Earth in 0 AD, and I'm sure this has occurred to Wolfe. *But that's not what TBotNS is about.* Perhaps the LS/SS novels pay a bit more attention to that problem, but still in a necessarily anthropocentric manner.<<< _______________________ The Urth Cycle is definitely anthropocentric. I don't want to touch off a debate about alien sentient beings and whether or not they have souls that need saving, or Original Sin, or the question of dogs going to Heaven and such. But there are other intelligent beings of a sort in Briah. This from CITADEL, chapter XXXIV: ------------------------------ "As the flower that comes is like the flower from which it came, so the universe that comes repeats the one whose ruin was its origin; and this is as true of its finer features as of its grosser ones: The worlds that arise are not unlike the worlds that perished, and are peopled by similar races, though just as the flower evolves from summer to summer, all things advance by some minute step. "In a certain divine year (a time truly inconceivable to us, though that cycle of the universes was but one in an endless succession), a race was born that was so like to ours that Master Malrubius did not scruple to call it human. It expanded among the galaxies of its universe even as we are said to have done in the remote past, when Urth was, for a time, the center, or at least the home and symbol, of an empire. "These men encountered many beings on other worlds who had intelligence to some degree, or at least the potential for intelligence, and from them-that they might have comrades in the loneliness between the galaxies and allies among their swarming worlds-they formed beings like themselves." ---------------------------------- And the beings thus formed were the Hierogrammates, of course. Still, this passage seems to me to draw a distinction between humans and all other natural beings, regardless of intelligence. Humans seem to be the only natural beings in the universe who matter in the story, which is in keeping with the Christian idea that Christ was both Man and God. All humans seem to have originated on Urth. The lower beings from whom the humans formed the Hierogrammates seem to be on the level of animals on Earth. So I don't think they need a Savior -- in this story. -Roy
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