Ship Volant

David Stockhoff · 19 Feb 2009, 03:31 · from 2009-February.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:31:26 -0500
Subject: (urth) Ship Volant
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Bingo. Or Severian would have called the image on the coin a "tower volant." And on fire as well, presumably. I doubt there's a heraldry term for that!

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:04:13 -0500
From: Jeffrey Brent McBeth <mcbeth at broggs.org>
Subject: Re: (urth) Ship Volant
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 02:40:36PM -0600, Roy C. Lackey wrote:

> > 
> > It is not likely that the image on the coin (the same as on the mausoleum)
> > was of a conventional rocket ship. There were no working spacecraft of that
> > type on Urth. It would be almost impossible to represent the seven-sided
> > Ship of Tzadkiel on a coin. Remember that both Severian and the Old Autarch
> > had been shuttled between Urth and the Ship by a tender like the one
> > described above, and the Old Autarch's face was on the obverse side of the
> > coin. The flying ship was the symbol he and Severian (and possibly Ymar) had
> > in common.
>   

Plus, if it were a conventional rocket ship, they wouldn't have been
so quick to call what they were living in "Towers"

Jeff

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