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The Politics Of Gene Wolfe

John Watkins · 17 Mar 2009, 15:30 · from 2009-March.txt.gz

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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:30:19 -0400
Subject: (urth) The Politics Of Gene Wolfe
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I'm well-acquainted with the Fourteenth Amendment, trust me.  It's still a
historical compromise that promoted a strong central government over the
states.  Most people, including myself, would agree, I think, that it was
necessary and I agree with you that it is distinguishable from later
expansions of federal power.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:26 AM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:

>  >James, we don't disagree.
>  >As it sits in today's political balance, however, with all the
> compromises
> >of history that have led us to this point
> >(including the cases you refer to and the Fourteenth Amendment),
>  >I think that DC v. Heller was just about on-target.
>
> Not to nit-pick, John, but the 14th amendment was an actual amendment to
> the constitution. It explicitly altered the rights of the states to make
> laws in very limited areas. It was possibly the last time we resolved a
> constitutional crisis "by the rules" (at the national level at least).
>
> J
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