The Politics Of Gene Wolfe
Jeff Wilson · 18 Mar 2009, 07:54
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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:54:13 -0500 Subject: (urth) The Politics Of Gene Wolfe In-Reply-To: <1f7617370903171013x16accd77k3cfc388e4fc2923a at mail.gmail.com> References: <W447681238525221237244914@webmail21> <03FEB8E1-A5CB-4C35-B788-FF0B30DD9AD3 at goosemoon.org> <49BF7768.6000407 at io.com> <11930.72.171.0.143.1237286160.squirrel at brunians.org> <7D7361FF-F396-4C21-AB80-4B18585C708C at io.com> <93d4039f0903170724w1424e52cn7998812102dbee6b at mail.gmail.com> <2B8C663FAC9D4D39A0D4521DABA89887@eMachinePC> <6612.67.142.130.27.1237303208.squirrel at brunians.org> <1f7617370903170825q9eab45fseb339ff294446f2f at mail.gmail.com> <4020.67.142.130.19.1237309435.squirrel at brunians.org> <1f7617370903171013x16accd77k3cfc388e4fc2923a at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C0A8A5.1010206 at io.com> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote: > >> This is a Big Lie, that you are repeating. > > I'm familiar with the concept of the Big Lie. The Bush administration > used it often enough. > >> The debate recorded in 'The Federalist Papers' and 'The Anti-Federalist >> Papers', and usage of the term militia at the time clearly show the >> opposite of what you say. This lie has been refuted time and time again, >> but like the proper Big Lie that it is, continues to be repeated. > > I'm not talking about anything but what the Amendment says. It gives > a purpose. The given puropse is "the security of the State." How it > came to be there is another question, but has no legal bearing on the > question of what the Amendment says and means. That's "the security of a free state", please, which is materially very different. -- Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com < http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
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