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The Politics Of Gene Wolfe

brunians at brunians.org · 18 Mar 2009, 08:23 · from 2009-March.txt.gz

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:23:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: (urth) The Politics Of Gene Wolfe
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Ah yes, I was wondering how long it would take someone to trot this one out.




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> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>
>> None of them are: it has been illegal for a civilian to own a firearm in
>> SF for some time now.
>
> And yet, we have a (slightly) lower murder rate than Tucson:
>
> http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=San+Francisco&state=CA
> http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Tucson&state=AZ
>
>  > People in Switzerland are very heavily armed
>
> Less than half the per capita gun ownership of the U.S.
>
>  > Hardly any crime there at all.
>
> Their murder rate is almost three times that of Italy, which has a much
> lower gun ownership rate.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_countries_by_gun_ownership
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homicide_rate
>
> My understanding is there isn't much correlation in either direction
> between gun ownership rates and murder rates. But I'm open to actual
> evidence (as opposed to cherry-picked examples).
>
> By the way: do you support private ownership of nuclear weapons? If not,
>   how do you reconcile that with your constitutional views, and how do
> you justify drawing the line between acceptable and unacceptable weapons
> in one place rather than another? (These are not rhetorical questions.
> I'm curious. And for what it's worth, I lean against gun control, albeit
> rather tepidly.)
>
> --
>
> Tim Walters | The Doubtful Palace | http://doubtfulpalace.com
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