Hut in the Jungle

Son of Witz · 19 Mar 2009, 06:16 · from 2009-March.txt.gz

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From: sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org (Son of Witz)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:16:31 -0700
Subject: (urth) Hut in the Jungle
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On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote:

>
> --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org> wrote:
>> On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>
>>> On the subject of one time influencing an earlier time,
>>> I think Christian thinkers have said or speculated that
>>> the Incarnation had consequences in its past.  And it's
>>> no harder, possibly easier to accept than time travel.
>>
>>
>> See Baldandars/Frankenstein discussion in this thread.
>
> That's what I was talking about.  My comment on Jesus
> caused you to make a similar comment a little earlier.
>
> Jerry Friedman

laughing out loud.  good work Jerry.


On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Craig Brewer wrote:

>
> Or another way to put it would be that some myths are true only in  
> the future. They make themselves true by projecting pseudo-false  
> stories about themselves in the past which help bring about their  
> realization. That would be Severian, yes?
>
> And on that reading, Talos realizing that his situation is what  
> Prometheus was really all about is significant in the text because  
> it's a smaller example of your Amphisbaena where the REAL meaningful  
> Amphisbaena's are the cosmic myths which are lies (in the past) that  
> make themselves become true (in the future).
>
> Is that right? If so, then I can retract my underwhelming.
>
> Oh, and:  Gee Whiz. Gene Wolfe. Coincidence?

Yes on the first paragraph. absolutely.
Not Sure on the second paragraph about the "real meaningful  
Amphisbaena"  I haven't completely grokked the explanation about the  
dead head eating the living head and the sustenance, or was it the  
other way around.  Whichever it was, I would probably weight them  
equally.
On the third, retract away.
On the fourth, LOL.

~witz

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