Future Echoes: Hut in the Jungle +

Jordon Flato · 20 Mar 2009, 16:58 · from 2009-March.txt.gz

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From: jordonflato at gmail.com (Jordon Flato)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:58:13 -0700
Subject: (urth) Future Echoes: Hut in the Jungle +
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And, if the goblet of water that turns to wine in the Inn in Saltus USED to
have wine in it before it held water, that would explain that 'miracle'
also...a reversal of time.  This 'miracle' has always plagued me as being
qualitatively different than the rest.




On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:54 AM, John Watkins <john.watkins04 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dorcas thinks that the Claw works by reversing time.  I've always thought
> that that was wrong-headed--that it just works because it's divine
> power--magic.
>
> Now that I read this passage, however, I'm starting to come around to
> Dorcas's view.  My knowledge of physics is pretty minimal, but I have this
> vague idea that time slows down as one speeds up and would actually go
> backwards if one could exceed the speed of light, which of course is
> impossible.  But if it *weren't *impossible, it would still be *impractical
> *because of the tremendous amount of energy it would take...unless one had
> the ability to channel some kind of divine energy, flowing from a higher
> plane of existence, much like Severian does.  Maybe that's *exactly *how
> the Claw works, and this thing about the flower leaping into being is a hint
> of that.
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:
>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Adam Thornton [mailto:adam at io.com]
>> >Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 09:44 AM
>> >To: 'The Urth Mailing List'
>>   >Subject: Re: (urth) Future Echoes:  Hut in the Jungle +
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mar 20, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Son of Witz wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Beside me, Dorcas plucked a water hyacinth and put it in her hair.
>> >> Except for the vague spot of white on the bank some distance ahead,
>> >> it was the first flower I had seen in the Garden of Endless Sleep; I
>> >> looked for others, but saw none. Is it possible the flower came into
>> >> being only because Dorcas reached for it? In daylight moments, I
>> >> know as well as the next that such things are impossible;"
>> >
>> >So, it's not hyacinths.
>> >
>> >Oh.  Hyacinth.
>> >
>> >Um.  Anyway, so, it's not hyacinths, but as long as we're doing
>> >temporally-reversed scenes, how about when the monster drowns the
>> >little girl who's tossing the flower petals into the pool in the
>> >Karloff _Frankenstein_?  Here we have the time reversal where Dorcas
>> >is produced from the pool, and then the flower petals.
>> >
>> >I'm probably just seeing spectres.
>> >
>> >Adam
>>
>>
>> I seem to see the wispy edges of a ghost there...
>>
>> ~witz
>>
>>
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