Urth Net

← back to the conversation

Babbie

James Wynn · 20 Mar 2009, 18:48 · from 2009-March.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:48:54 -0500
Subject: (urth) Babbie
References: <W713322902877541237571466@webmail34>
Message-ID: <DA1F647411274F0E8B3F5A1B9E76A5BF@eMachinePC>

>Watkins:
>>This makes the most sense to me of anything so far.  NeighborHorn is
>>NeighborHorn, not Neighbor/Horn--he doesn't have the Neighbor's
>>memories/personality/soul, but does have his life/essence/nature.  He has
>>Horn's memories/personality/ThomisticSoul, but not anything like Horn's
>>Platonic/eternal soul, if such things exist in Wolfe's world. He's Horn's
>>ghost in a Neighbor-enhanced version of Horn's body.
>
>Witz:
> Now I think I can get behind this.
> I think we may have come to terms with this thing here.
> what do you think Wynn? Lackey? Flato? Hamm?

John Watkins seems to be better at explaining these things than I am. Yes, 
this is exactly the way I see it. Except for this: there is *some* kind of 
memory possible if the reanimator chooses wants it badly enough because the 
same thing happens to Silk in front of Hyacinth's coffin and the memory of 
Horn's memories are transferred as is the desire of NeighborHorn to complete 
his mission.

But thinking of the revived persons in terms of a Platonic, particle soul 
(rather than a Thomist, wave pysche) is not useful in this case.

J 


An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net