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Blood Pudding (was Neighbors as Faeries)

Jordon Flato · 20 Mar 2009, 20:48 · from 2009-March.txt.gz

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From: jordonflato at gmail.com (Jordon Flato)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:48:31 -0700
Subject: (urth) Blood Pudding (was Neighbors as Faeries)
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Not ready to lay that out on the list yet, but maybe over lunch next week we
can spin it out. ;)

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:

> Jordon, what was that you were telling me about the Corn genetics that had
> a more metaphoric angle?  I can't quite remember, yet I seem to think there
> was more resonance for me than this literal stuff.
>
> ~witz
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jordon Flato [mailto:jordonflato at gmail.com]
> >Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:54 AM
> >To: 'The Urth Mailing List'
> >Subject: Re: (urth) Blood Pudding (was Neighbors as Faeries)
> >
> >You know, I just read this part, and I can't find any reference to a Tree
> >being in there with him, much less anything close to resembling a tree
> >eating his corpse.  A Neighbor comes in (he thinks it a spider or
> >something).  As a matter of fact, I just reread that, and there is not
> >mention or even hint of a tree(s) being in the pit with Horn, so I don't
> >know where this comes from.  Can you cite anything?
> >
> >I do see the Neigbors associated with Trees on some level, but not as
> >projections.  The Neighbors as for permission to visit this world, and
> >indicate they have left this world to go to another.  How is that
> connected
> >to the Trees?  The trees obviously don't leave (no pun intended).  Are the
> >trees Spirit Antennae or something which allow the Neighbors to transmit
> >themselves back to Blue?
> >
> >I don't see nearly as direct a connection between the trees and the
> >Neighbors as some seem to, although I will admit there is some possible
> >connection, no doubt.
> >
> >But there is no tree in the pit.  Not from textual references anyway.
> >
> >RE:  Hybridization.  YES!  This is the one thing which is making me
> >seriously consider that a neighbor did something siginficant in this
> respect
> >to Horn in the pit.  It fits thematically.
> >
> >On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Brian Lovely <brian at studiobl.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Remember that hybrids are a big part of the story.  That long bit with
> >> Silk/Horn, the farmer, and how to cross corn wasn't there for nothing.
> >> Plus, in the books, transferring blood transfers more than...well,
> blood.
> >> The blood confers some of the donor's being, creating a kind of hybrid.
> >>
> >> Also, the neighbors resemble and/or are heavily associated with trees.
> >>  When
> >> Krait is dying on Green, the trees are described in very human terms.
>  The
> >> tree in the pit with Horn was a Neighbor who ate Horn, or consumed his
> >> corpse, or somehow otherwise hybridized with him.
> >>
> >> -Brian Lovely
> >>
> >> Jordon Flato wrote:
> >>
> >> I would agree that chasing the stag, falling in the Pit (which was in
> the
> >> midst of a classic faerie circle of the ruins) represented a crossing
> over
> >> of sorts, but I don't think it necessitates Horns death.  That is a
> turning
> >> point in the narrative for a number of reasons, not the least of which
> is
> >> that it brings Horn directly to the attention of the neighbors (without,
> I
> >> would posit, necessitating a transfer of 'souls' into Horn).
> >>
> >> I grant it is possible, but I just don't see it yet.
> >>
> >>
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