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David Stockhoff · 06 Apr 2009, 18:54 · from 2009-April.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:54:34 -0400
Subject: (urth) Hut/Ultan's Library/Catherine
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Well, they were both underground in a musty place of great age, where data was literally entombed, like the dead. Where the knowledge of the historians that Ultan desires is also entombed; where the whole of Urth is entombed. 

Who wouldn't get a creepy feeling? The place is symbolic of death.

I agree; this is a stretch.

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Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:47:36 -0500
From: "James Wynn" <crushtv at gmail.com>
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> >"Again I seemed to hear bronze, and quite suddenly I felt that he
> >and I were dead, and that the darkness surrounding us was
> >grave soil pressing in about our eyes, grave soil through which
> >the bell called us to worship at whatever shrines may exist below
> >ground. The livid woman I had seen dragged from her grave
> >rose before me so vividly that I seemed to see her face in the
> >almost luminous whiteness of the figure who spoke. "
>   

> >Why weird? Ultan is a Vodalarian, and has eaten part of
> >the corpse. He is hardly a great exception.
>   

"...and quite suddenly I felt that he and I were dead..."

I'm not sure I understand this explanation. At the time of this event, 
Severian had not eaten any corpse; so, why did he feel that he himself was 
dead? I suppose it is not absolutely required, but this pairing seems to 
imply they were "were dead" for the same reason...whatever it was.

J. 



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