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Gnosticism in BotNS

David Stockhoff · 09 Apr 2009, 17:56 · from 2009-April.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:56:18 -0400
Subject: (urth) Gnosticism in BotNS
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My understanding was that the Parsees' religion doesn't exactly correspond to Zoroastrianism as practiced 5,000 or so years ago (or whatever the exact figure is), whichever one is deemed "true." You wouldn't expect it to. It could easily have absorbed common, simple concepts like dualism; it would have been difficult to preserve perfectly.

But you're right: who studies this but Western scholars with a vested interest? Or was that not a bit of snark I detected? ;)

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:46:04 +0200
From: "Stanislaus B." <sbocian at poczta.fm>
Subject: Re: (urth) Gnosticism in BotNS
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Hello!

On 9 kwietnia 2009, brunians at brunians.org wrote:


Each of the ancient religions even somewhat popular in the West has
two versions: the version believed by the traditional members, and
the version believed in by the Western converts. The Western version
is obviously the original, true religion, freed from the accumulated
mistakes of centuries.

Zoroastrianism in the Western, true and original version is
monotheistic. Zoroastrianism as believed in by Persians and Parsees
is very much dualistic. Manicheism, and all other versions of Iranian
gnosis is also dualistic.

Syrian and Egyptian Gnosis is fundamentally monist, with the Demiurg
being a fallen being of the Light.


-- Best regards, Stanislaus B.



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