PF as YA
Jonathan Goodwin · 16 Apr 2009, 17:40
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From: joncgoodwin at gmail.com (Jonathan Goodwin) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:40:50 -0500 Subject: (urth) PF as YA In-Reply-To: <20090416091944.1B10148008 at diego.dreamhost.com> References: <c2e.50550f33.3717b68f at aol.com> <37bfbeb60904151547o2b803698xa2dd622f75148a3e at mail.gmail.com> <20090416091944.1B10148008 at diego.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <37bfbeb60904161040v5db718e8j1755eee5167937df at mail.gmail.com> I think by the time that he's writing his narrative, in America, as a traditionalist priest, he is meant to be a wholly sympathetic character by Wolfe. I do not find him so, for any number of reasons, but my feeling is that Wolfe does intend him to be. I solicit other reactions to this, from those of you who read the book and still care. Also, about the wiki, while I have you on the horn here: The "Seven American Nights" entry ends with the following line: "It shows us that Americans could behave as horribly as the third-world people they look down on, were the roles reversed. " I know it's a wiki, etc.; but is that what whoever wrote it really meant to say? On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Mo Holkar / UKG <lists at ukg.co.uk> wrote: > At 23:47 15/04/2009, Jonathan Goodwin wrote: >> >> I know that "didactic" has a pejorative connotation in many >> circumstances (which might be derived from New Critical orthodoxy, at >> least in part); but I meant it only descriptively. > > > It seems to me likely that Wolfe means all of his work to have a didactic > element (in that descriptive sense). Otherwise, what would be the moral > purpose of writing it? > > And to go back to your slightly earlier question -- while Chris surely isn't > held up as a moral exemplar, he does seem to me to be portrayed > sympathetically, and his exploits laid out in such a way that instruction > might be drawn from them. So this might be a more sophisticated take on the > identify-with protagonist of simplistically didactic YA. I'm not an expert, > but I'm sure there must be a tradition of other such in the YA canon. > > Mo > > > # ~ # ~ # > > WolfeWiki -- a wiki about Gene Wolfe > http://www.wolfewiki.com/pmwiki/ > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >
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