Who was Horn?
James Wynn · 17 Apr 2009, 01:18
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:18:51 -0500 Subject: (urth) Who was Horn? In-Reply-To: <93d4039f0904161601k300fc400v8e5a8dfde38239ce at mail.gmail.com> References: <mailman.19790.1239903967.12296.urth-urth.net at lists.urth.net><273409710904161131u6171e582pd6e2864de0dc4cb9 at mail.gmail.com><93d4039f0904161137t2f35529bk7eeedbb1101be2e at mail.gmail.com><1A1E3E2F0AA0465BA355C91FC14C392F@eMachinePC><93d4039f0904161341k4d71ff54vc4d30ac91580989c at mail.gmail.com><273409710904161346o308f8104w78d085d372899158 at mail.gmail.com><273409710904161346j4c119e25n6d75dcb42c9a81f at mail.gmail.com><C21E89454E2E42448C7359C3B470B4AE@eMachinePC><273409710904161433t14f54bc6s66a276f071d54ac0 at mail.gmail.com><582BC0F4FB2E42CCBB979E5557042B02@eMachinePC> <93d4039f0904161601k300fc400v8e5a8dfde38239ce at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8C1E75FECA02405889DE15B002094344@eMachinePC> >I mostly agree with you, but I want to take some points in turn. I hereby pick up the gauntlet. >Do you really think he had momentarily forgotten Horn's name? ************************** IGJ (HB) pg 122 "Was this you for real Incanto? Were you on Green? By Echidna's babies, I think you were!" I shook my head and told him it had been someone else, a man whose name I have forgotten, a man who wore a ring with a white stone. My own name is Horn, no matter what Oreb may say. *********************** This is disassociation. Horn lives on only in the Rajan's memories of Horn's memories from when he and Horn were one. He is focused on being and imitating *Horn*, not the creature named Horn who was created in the pit from a Neighbor and a human corpse. That creature has ceased to exist as well, just as Mani would cease to exist when the cat died. He also lives only in the Rajan's memories. But the Rajan has so many alternate memories now, he's confused. But it is clear (to me) from this statement that the Rajan sees a distinction between "Horn" and the man who died on Green. >>Silk is a an anorexic masochist. >Silk does fast, whether this makes him these things or not. It's mentioned >at least twice in Nightside. Granted, but when it is combined with the onset of ravenous hunger in the Spring, we know more is going on here (incidentally, this is more of that Tree-Neighbor connection that I still don't understand). I do not recall an instance of LS Silk pretending to eat food set before him. He fasts, but when there is not a lot of food available anyway, it is easy to be holy in that way. Not the same thing as what happens in SS, I think. >Oh yeah, then there is the *Rajan* saying that he killed Hide and Hoof's >father. >Not sure much can be made of this. >The entity known as "Horn" has ceased to exist in any meaningful >sense by the time that comment is made >(unless he's in Babbie, which the Rajan might not be aware of). Yes, Horn had died, and the Horn-Neighbor had ceased to exist, but the entity who had accidentally killed the father of Hoof and Hide lived on, just as Mani's elemental spirit would live on after the cat died. Other than this explanation, however, nothing much can be made of this statement that satisfies me. J.
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