Urth Digest, Vol 57, Issue 13

Jeff Wilson · 17 May 2009, 11:24 · from 2009-May.txt.gz

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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 06:24:36 -0500
Subject: (urth) Urth Digest, Vol 57, Issue 13
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Robin Dunn wrote:
> But revolution comes when that
> rich/ poor gap gets too high.  And revolutions have very, very high
> costs.  Wolfe knows that too, I bet.

There's more to it, like how poor the poor are to begin with, than how 
far the rich are above them. The Lydians didn't revolt against Croesus, 
after all.

Socialism needs to borrow more from communalism before it has enough of 
a chance to be worth a trial. An adversarial system that where many 
have-nots stand to gain at the expense of a few haves by definition is 
going to be opposed by all the wealth and power the haves can bring to 
bear. If you can arrange things so that Capital gets a return, even a 
modest one, as well as Labor, then you'll get some takers among the haves.

-- 
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >

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