Urth Digest, Vol 57, Issue 13

Jeff Wilson · 18 May 2009, 13:25 · from 2009-May.txt.gz

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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:25:01 -0500
Subject: (urth) Urth Digest, Vol 57, Issue 13
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David Stockhoff wrote:
> All of which is perfectly correct but has little to do with actual 
> socialism and more to do with paranoid Randian fantasies of it. In 
> short, a straw man.

I have witnessed more than one self-identified socialist state that 
their goal was the transfer of ownership of productive enterprises to 
their employees by constitutional amendment. So if it's an effigy, it's 
not one I built.

I'll readily admit there are more realistic forms of socialism. One of 
particular interest to those here may be the brand espoused by Steve 
Brust, author of the Vlad Taltos books. He's blogging a reading of 
WEALTH OF NATIONS at

	http://dreamcafe.com/words/

and no one's died horribly, yet.

-- 
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >

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