Random thoughts on Forlesen
mary whalen · 13 Oct 1998, 08:05
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From: mary whalen <marewhalen at YAHOO.COM>
Subject: (urth) Random thoughts on Forlesen
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:05:42
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This is Sean Whalen (prion).
These are just some random observations and thoughts on the story
"Forlesen."
I was recently asked why Mr. Frick doesn't seem to age and remembers
his youth and past, unlike Forlesen. I'm not completely sure that
anyone outside of Forlesen's family has the problems that he does, but
it's possible that Frick is meant to be an English form of
Fricco/Frey(r), the Norse god of youth.
When Forlesen looks in the red book, he reads about the types of the
dead and death. The translation lists 12 different types. One of
those is types are in either torment or pleasure. It seems odd that
those two would be grouped together into one type when there are so
many. If they were two separate types, there would be thirteen types.
Elsewhere in the book, 13 is mentioned by Beale as the number of
children his parents had, of which he is the oldest member. The first
type mentioned in the book is "those for whom new worlds are created."
Of course, perhaps pleasure or pain is merely different in the eye of
the beholder, like sado-masochism. S&M in the text is used to
abbreviate supervisory and managerial, which is the type of job
Forlesen has. The clock he punches is beige ("not brown") and perhaps
this is meant to show the racial divide between blacks and whites.=20
Forlesen says that the translation on one side of the book can't be
right, because the size of sections greatly differ in some instances.=20
This is not necessarily true. English is very different than other
languages in how long its constructions can be. For example, "first
come, first serve" would be quite a long sentece or modifying phrase
in Welsh, and many other languages. Thus, "And finally, those who
sleep" might be a very long sentence in the translated language
Forlesen sees. Conversely, the long English phrase about the
frolicking dead might be only one word in the translated language,
something like "Elysian."
prion
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