Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)

brunians at brunians.org · 19 May 2009, 21:19 · from 2009-May.txt.gz

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:19:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: (urth) Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)
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Adam writes:

> On May 19, 2009, at 4:04 PM, James Wynn wrote:

>>> Adam sez:
>>> It is my choice to go live somewhere else without
>>> these restrictions,  if I like. Like Mogadishu.

>>> Dan'l sez:
>>> If you don't like it, strongly enough, you are encouraged
>>> to go live in Somalia.

>> I'm not sure where some people got the idea that Somalia was founded
>> as a Libertarian/Liberal society, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't.

> I am merely offering Somalia as the closest approach to the ideal of a
> complete lack of functional civil society and to a Hobbesian all-
> against-all of which I am currently aware.

But we (the people on the other side of the argument) are none of us
arguing for a complete lack of functional civil society and a Hobbesian
all-against-all. Were you under the impression that we were?

> I don't think it was founded as a Libertopia.  I think it does
> approximate the end state of a society in which there is not a
> government.

Perhaps someday you will choose to address the arguments that have
actually been made.

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