Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)

John Watkins · 19 May 2009, 21:21 · from 2009-May.txt.gz

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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:21:10 -0400
Subject: (urth) Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)
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Somalia is to libertarianism what *1984* is to communitarianism.  A useful
thing to keep in mind, but little else.  In real life, communitarian states
are as apt to resemble Germany, and libertarian states as apt to resemble
Hong Kong.

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Adam Thornton <adam at io.com> wrote:

>
> On May 19, 2009, at 4:04 PM, James Wynn wrote:
>
>  Adam sez:
>>> It is my choice to go live somewhere else without
>>> these restrictions,  if I like. Like Mogadishu.
>>>
>>
>> Dan'l sez:
>>> If you don't like it, strongly enough, you are encouraged
>>> to go live in Somalia.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure where some people got the idea that Somalia was founded as a
>> Libertarian/Liberal society, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
>>
>
> I am merely offering Somalia as the closest approach to the ideal of a
> complete lack of functional civil society and to a Hobbesian all-against-all
> of which I am currently aware.
>
> I don't think it was founded as a Libertopia.  I think it does approximate
> the end state of a society in which there is not a government.
>
> Adam
>
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