Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)

David Stockhoff · 19 May 2009, 21:32 · from 2009-May.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:32:52 -0400
Subject: (urth) Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)
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Somalia's economy is not "based on" piracy. It was based on fishing and herding before global shipping killed all the fish.

Read newspapers.


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Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:18:52 -0500
From: "James Wynn" <crushtv at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)
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> > I am merely offering Somalia as the closest approach to the ideal of a 
> > complete lack of functional civil society and to a Hobbesian all- 
> > against-all of which I am currently aware.
> > I don't think it was founded as a Libertopia.  I think it does 
> > approximate the end state of a society in which there is not a 
> > government.
>   

Libertarians and classical Liberals do not call for the withering away of 
the state. That's some other political philosophy.

>From an L/L stand-point, I could reasonably compare Somalia's economy-based 
on piracy to a Welfare State system. But then Gene Wolfe already did.

J. 



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