Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)
Adam Thornton · 20 May 2009, 00:12
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From: adam at io.com (Adam Thornton) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:12:32 -0500 Subject: (urth) Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again) In-Reply-To: <11519.67.142.130.18.1242778047.squirrel at brunians.org> References: <mailman.68838.1242757770.12296.urth-urth.net at lists.urth.net> <4A1304A1.1000901 at verizon.net> <13409.67.142.130.18.1242761222.squirrel at brunians.org> <2BCC6FAA-905B-4A04-BFAE-817E0EDE9BD8 at io.com> <D67BBCB673F4491BB8DC3A37289BD563@eMachinePC> <002BF131-691F-4247-B56E-19C9D86BDA6D at io.com> <50586EEE2CA14862AA7A038867E0B211@eMachinePC> <9ABFD473-EF4F-44FA-8C53-9A140080E64F at io.com> <2D85DC7E1002442C9FFC385EBA1BB3A0@eMachinePC> <15038.67.142.130.18.1242766720.squirrel at brunians.org> <1f7617370905191401w3e7cfd18h3684f3ec0f25bc5e at mail.gmail.com> <0C649F1C-5A4E-4B1D-A8A7-1DBDE9254FD0 at comcast.net> <11519.67.142.130.18.1242778047.squirrel at brunians.org> Message-ID: <1AE40EDD-C9B2-4261-8FF9-020604F92100 at io.com> On May 19, 2009, at 7:07 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote: > Well, I'd think you'd have to minimize the shame-heaping aspects if > you > wanted to adapt the system for general use, but that doesn't mean it > can't > be done. Isn't that the engine that drives the whole thing? Since I know you have a tendency to narrowly-construe if it suits your argument, I will amplify: Traditional "extortionate" taxation uses the threat of incarceration and siezure of assets as the stick to drive the recalcitrant mule to puke up the carrot of tax revenue. The Mormon model uses the fear of community shaming. Even I am not so naive about human nature to think this will work in the absence of a stick of some sort. I mean, I do it myself about public radio (inter alia): most years, I feel like I *should* be giving my local NPR station some money, but I always have an excuse for not doing it, and uneasy guilt isn't quite enough for me to pull out the checkbook. Adam
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