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Pandora / Catcher in the Rye [Digest urth.v002.n020]

John Bishop · 23 Jul 1997, 16:24 · from urth-v0003.mbox · original

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From: John Bishop <jbishop at ch.hp.com>
Subject: (urth) Pandora / Catcher in the Rye [Digest urth.v002.n020]
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:24:45
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[Posted from URTH, a mailing list about Gene Wolfe's New Sun and other work=
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  mantis--

  Well, when I started to read _Pandora_by_Holly_Hollander_
  and found myself reading a monologue by an observant
  but a bit alienated teenager, _Catcher_ instantly sprang
  to mind.

  Gene Wolfe puts really obscure references in his works
  (e.g. the torture machine in _Shadow_ which writes on
  the clients' bodies is from Kafka's _The_Penal_Colony_).
  I can't believe he wouldn't make the _Catcher_ connection.

  Other than that, I don't believe there are that many
  parallels; Holden Caulfield doesn't solve a murder, and
  Holly doesn't go to NYC.  But that wonderful voice of
  innocence which thinks it's cynical--that was the same.

  Maybe I need to re-read _Catcher_; but I remember not
  liking it, and I've other things to read.

        -John






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