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Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)

brunians at brunians.org · 20 May 2009, 13:34 · from 2009-May.txt.gz

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: (urth) Gene Wolfe Fans Talk Politics (Again)
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> I believe that every man is his own and his only master.  I have the right
> to
> do anything I please, so long as I do no harm to you and yours.  If I do
> seek
> to do harm to you or yours, then you have the right to use force to stop
> me - to defend yourself.

> Since you have the right to use force if necessary to, say, stop me from
> stealing your car, government can legitimately act as your proxy and
> institute a police force to stop auto theft.  This same principle can be
> expanded and extended to determine the legitimate authority that
> government possesses.  I have the right to defend myself from foreign
> invasion, so government can act as my proxy and institute a national
> defense.  (Note that this justifies national defense, not a national
> foreign policy enforcement arm.)  But I have no right to take your money
> by force in order to feed someone else, so government has no legitimate
> authority to do that either.

Damn, clear thinking in 2009. Who woulda thunk it?



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