Severians Later Appearance (Spoilers)

brunians at brunians.org · 12 Jan 2010, 16:10 · from 2010-January.txt.gz

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:10:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: (urth) Severians Later Appearance (Spoilers)
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He's making you think, isn't he?

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>
>
> Sorry If I wasn't clear but I was more asking why he felt
> the need to add him to the Short Sun books in the first place? As it goes
> it
> seems to me to be one of the worst ways to include him in the narrative,
> as it
> is in a way that comes close to contradicting the text of the New Sun; and
> then
> too explain it all away by saying he neglected to mention it, is either
> very
> shoddy writing, (which I highly doubt in Wolfe?s case) or something more.
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:38:50 -0500
>> From: brunians at brunians.org
>> To: urth at lists.urth.net
>> CC: urth at urth.net
>> Subject: Re: (urth) Severians Later Appearance (Spoilers)
>>
>> He hadn't planned it out, Tom.
>>
>> When he wrote the New Sun he had no idea there was going to be a Short
>> Sun.
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > One of the main problems I have difficulty understanding is
>> > why Wolfe felt the need to include Severian in the Short Sun books. I
>> am
>> > unclear
>> > on whether this is meant to be the Severian of the New Sun books, or
>> his
>> > first
>> > iteration or maybe another. I find I am reluctant to accept that
>> Severian
>> > did
>> > not include SilkHorn in the books because no one would believe him as
>> he
>> > states, because Severian includes many wild adventures which seem even
>> > less
>> > likely. Also I think it creates an inconsistency with Merryn appearing
>> in
>> > the
>> > New Sun book, surely they would recognise each other to a greater
>> extent
>> > and I
>> > can't imagine Severian neglecting to mention something in that regard
>> in
>> > the
>> > narrative; especially as he mentions another brief meeting between
>> them as
>> > a
>> > child.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In my mind It simply does not seem to add up, and I am convinced there
>> is
>> > something I am missing which makes for a more feasible explanation. As
>> at
>> > the
>> > momment it comes across to me as shoddy and unneeded yet I feel this
>> must
>> > be a
>> > fault with my own understanding of the text, rather than Wolfe?s work.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > So I'd greatly appreciate any thoughts of theories on the matter, even
>> If
>> > it
>> > happens to be it is the Severian from New Sun and he just fails to
>> mention
>> > SilkHorn.
>> >
>> >
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