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TSH: Ted's identity

Gwern Branwen · 23 Apr 2010, 20:03 · from 2010-April.txt.gz

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From: gwern0 at gmail.com (Gwern Branwen)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:03:17 -0400
Subject: (urth) TSH: Ted's identity
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On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Roy C. Lackey <rclackey at stic.net> wrote:
>> Craig Brewer wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly, but are we ever told specifically
>> that Goldwurm killed Ambrosius and threw his body in the river? I can't seem
>> to find it.<
>>
>> Yes. That's the story as given by Emlyn. I cited the page number in the post
>> to which you are responding. Page 74. "I imagine Goldwurm thought he'd find
>> his master's [weapon of sorcery] without much trouble, so he didn't keep him
>> around to question. Just strangled him and threw him in the river. It was
>> before my time, but I've heard that the old sorcerer's name was Ambrosius."
>
> Ummm. This makes it clear that Emlyn does _NOT_ know what happened;
> for he begins by saying "I imagine..."

I read that as the imagine is about Emlyn's speculation about
Goldwurm's thoughts and reasons for not keeping Ambrosius around to
question. I don't read it as Emlyn imagining the entire scenario, and
only actually knowing 'Goldwurm was killed by someone who may've been
named Ambrosius.' I suspect I'm not alone in this.

-- 
gwern

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