started my second read of New Sun
Jeff Wilson · 15 May 2010, 00:30
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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 19:30:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: (urth) started my second read of New Sun In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil87mZ2w1tCDWvm5o-2Sq8_wqq10WFxavvMCzwE at mail.gmail.com> References: <x2rb5bac3561005050900p82ab73aele94c2f3c6220275 at mail.gmail.com> <t2r1f7617371005050907uc9321751xfdd6599e31fdc91 at mail.gmail.com> <g2j272706221005050928o93547c9dw7d31d90e86084578 at mail.gmail.com> <4BED9491.4030502 at io.com> <AANLkTil87mZ2w1tCDWvm5o-2Sq8_wqq10WFxavvMCzwE at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0c4c4fa7eb86ec86815f80351ff376f2.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com> > It would still be more efficient for Tzadkiel/Hierogrammates/whomever > to send the White Fountain without the need for the test or > maneuvering Severian on the throne. While we might argue that God (or > other such omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent being) must work > through intermediaries because his nature prevents direct > intervention, Tzadkiel and the Hieros have no such restrictions. Or > do they just mirror their reflections in the universe above Yesod and > act by circumspect means because in their image are they created? I think they interfere as little as possible both because they are at base moral creatures who know they constantly risk catastrophic changes in their "client" civilizations and because of limited resources, as each group of islands on Yesod is responsible for an entire galaxy in Briah. Tzadkiel needs Severian's coming to confirm when his personal attention will be needed and where along the timeline to aim the Fountain, so he is available to supervise the other worlds in his teritory. > (Aside, and literary connection, complete with spoilers for those who > have not read _Anathem_: this is somewhat akin to Neal Stephenson's > faux-Platonic idea of "propagation along the wick," where the Daban > Urnood travels through successive iterations of Earth _backwards_ > along a chain of ever-worsening reflections of the Platonic ideal > Earth. Although it is interesting to note that Man of Science > Stephenson sees traveling toward "more perfect" universes as moving > backward, while for Man of Faith Wolfe doing so is traveling > "upward.") I think this could be an artifact of the borrowing from Plato; wasn't the Hellenic cultural view of time as if they stood by a river looking downstream as it carried figures of the past into the distance while those of the unknowable future are behind them, only the largest foreshadowed by ripples if at all?
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