travelling north
James Wynn · 03 Jun 2010, 19:49
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:49:47 -0500 Subject: (urth) travelling north In-Reply-To: <74ACEC927B2D43749BA167224C5AB711@jill> References: <74ACEC927B2D43749BA167224C5AB711@jill> Message-ID: <4C08075B.2030400 at gmail.com> On 6/3/2010 2:04 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote: >The Book of the Long Sun is set in the same universe, >and in it Silk has a vision of a hero riding into a city, >greeted by supporters waving fan-shaped leaves. >(I can't remember the page offhand.) >Surely this represents Palm Sunday, >suggesting that Jesus existed in this universe? >-Gerry Quinn He had this vision during his enlightenment by the Outsider (presumably the Increate). Surely the Outsider is the Lord of all the Universes, and could offer a vision from any of them. Still, I've never been able to piece together any narrative value from saying that Jesus never came in Severian's universe. As was recently pointed out, the world would be quite different if there had never been a Christianity, and Severian's past is very much like our own. IMO Too much is made of Wolfe's personal Christian beliefs in his most of his fiction. I don't think he tries to make his fiction conform to correct theology. I recall that in an interview he obliquely used Orson Scott Card as an example of a writer that puts his faith into all of his writings and said that he himself did not do that. "The Concilliator" is more of a Gnostic concept and a Gnostic Christian concept. I don't believe Wolfe is Gnostic even though it is reasonable to assert that what _The Chronicles of Narnia_ were to Orthodox Christianity, the entire Sun Cycle is to Gnostic Christianity. Wolfe has said that Severian is a "Christ-figure". Well, Mithras is a Christ-figure. Hercules was, in some 1st or 2nd century paen, called "The Savior of the World". J. PS Before anyone objects, I realize that Paul used the term "mediator" in Galatians and 1 Timothy, but in Galatians he says that with Christ there was no mediator between God and Mankind, and in 1 Timothy he seems to be using the term ironically to dispense with complicated concepts of mediators in ala angels, the Law of Moses, and (I think) early Gnosticism (in 1 Tim. he also refers to "profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called" and "myths and endless genealogies [aeons]").
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