traveling north

Matthew Weber · 04 Jun 2010, 13:42 · from 2010-June.txt.gz

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From: palaeologos at gmail.com (Matthew Weber)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:42:09 -0700
Subject: (urth) traveling north
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Touatte.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:10 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:

> Ouanquerrie.
>
> .
>
>
> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/3/2010 8:58 PM, John Watkins wrote:
> >>
> >>> I agree with this.  Actually, Mormonism has significant Arian elements
> >>> too, and Mormonism and Islam have a lot in common.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I still have a problem calling anything non-trinitarian Christianity. It
> >> would be like calling the Nation of Islam the same as Islam, despite it
> >> maintianing the divinity of its founder, Wallace Fard Muhammad.
> >>
> >>
> > I completely agree--however, my agreement is coming from within orthodox
> > Christianity, so it's far from academically disinterested!  Many students
> > of
> > religion solve the problem of who is and who isn't a Christian by simply
> > considering everyone who claims the name to be one.  I understand why,
> but
> > to stretch terms so far makes them nearly meaningless, in my opinion.
> >
> > In response to an earlier post on Arianism, I have always thought that
> the
> > Jehovah's Witnesses were the closest modern equivalent.  The creators and
> > subcreators of Mormonism always call to mind, for me, the demiurges,
> aeons
> > and emanations of Gnosticism.
> >
> > Islam is a more complicated case, I think.  It's very likely that
> Muhammad
> > considered himself a sort of Christian.  I have always thought that the
> > Iconoclastic movement, and later the Swiss Reformers, partook somewhat of
> > the Islamic ethos.  Certainly Calvin has more in common with Muhammad
> than
> > with most of the Fathers...
> >
> > --
> > Matt +
> >
> > Each of us bears his own Hell.
> > Virgil [Publius Vergilius Maro] (70-19 B.C.), Aeneid, bk. VI, l. 743
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-- 
Matt +

Each of us bears his own Hell.
Virgil [Publius Vergilius Maro] (70-19 B.C.), Aeneid, bk. VI, l. 743
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