Urth & Earth (was "Travelling North aka miscellaneous thoughts on Wolfe")

John Watkins · 04 Jun 2010, 19:40 · from 2010-June.txt.gz

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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:40:51 -0400
Subject: (urth) Urth & Earth (was "Travelling North aka miscellaneous
	thoughts on Wolfe")
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Because Wolfe is also playing with the notions of an anti-Christ or
demiurge.  Falsity and pretence to authority are pretty key parts of those
notions.  (And frankly Pas is a lot more demiurge than anti-Christ.)

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:29 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, the concept of  needing to confess to a priest as a path to
> absolution is pretty Catholic, I'd think.
> If Wolfe only wanted to play with familiar motifs, why include the plot
> element that the Chapter was founded as a parody of another specific
> religion?
>
>
>  Well, no, obviously not...I guess what I'm asking is, do that parallels
> between the Chapter and the Catholic Church rise to the level that within
> the fictive universe there must be a cause-and-effect relationship between
> them, or can they be interpretted as merely have a metafictive causal
> relationship, i.e., the author is a Catholic with something to say and
> playing around with ideas that are familiar to him?
>
>
>
>  You could just as well ask "How Catholic is the Catholic Church?"
>> Obviously there are parallels with other religions in this or that aspect.
>> It's the whole package that is at issue. I can't imagine that any reader has
>> said, "Oh! You think the Chapter seems like a twisted version of Catholic
>> Church? I hadn't thought of that."
>>
>>  How Catholic is the Chapter, really?
>>
>>
>>
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