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Urth & Earth (was "Travelling North aka miscellaneous thoughts on Wolfe")

John Watkins · 04 Jun 2010, 20:38 · from 2010-June.txt.gz

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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:38:16 -0400
Subject: (urth) Urth & Earth (was "Travelling North aka miscellaneous
	thoughts on Wolfe")
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However, Pas's role in Short Sun is a little more complicated...

My interpretation is that the Short Sun is (inter alia) about the Outsider's
long game of converting Pas into a reasonable facsimile of Himself.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:30 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> Or to put it another way:
>> Anti-Christ:  Brother Justin Crowe
>> Demiurge:  Dalek Emperor.
>>
>
> Or to put it even another way:
> A demiurge is a god who presents himself as The God. He's yet he is the
> creator of the world, worshipping him does not lead to
> salvation/enlightenment.
> The Antichrist (or in some cases, no doubt, an antichrist) is a MAN who
> presents himself as God.
>
> Obviously, the very creation of Pas as an object of worship would be
> something an antichrist would do.
> But Typhon *did* create the Whorl. He is never overthrown from his
> creation. In fact, Silk and Auk help to place him back on his throne.
>
> So Typhon/Pas (and I heard Wolfe say last September that they are
> absolutely equivalent) is a demiurge not The Antichrist of the New
> Testament.
>
>
> J.
>
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